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In this episode of Habits for Humans with Kim Flynn, we discuss how It’s not what your body looks like, it’s how you feel in your body. It is tempting to buy into thinking your body is your value in a society that validates self-betrayal in order to be skinny.
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Hi, and welcome to habits for humans. The podcast that explores what makes people tick and how to program this life of ours, our brain, our bodies, our emotions. Uh, to do what we want it to do and not just do we want it to do, as we’ve been talking with Becky and Nisha in the previous podcast, how to have those actions come from a center that is not trying to prove our worth or prove our value.
Um, so this is a second podcast in a two-part series, kind of unexpected. It was so good. I just couldn’t stop. So we’re going to continue on this vein and have a second half hour podcast with Becky and Nisha as my dog freaks out in the background. So. Um, both Becky and Nisha I’ve spent years of their lives devoting themselves to healing their own past traumas.
Both women experienced eating disorders in their younger years. Again, we’ve talked about that in the last podcast. So listen to that one first and struggled with body trauma. And this is the piece I want to explore in this podcast. And that is. Your body will give you wisdom that you can’t access in any other way. Nisha, I think it was you that said that on our, on our pre-call will you just dive right into that? Your body will give you wisdom that you can’t access in any other way.
Trying cardio to heal your body
So I would say. I’ve taught fitness classes for 15 years. So when I was in a lot of
trauma,
I was down. Every
Every day.
I
can’t get off the couch. Can’t get out of bed. But then I had to tell myself.
off
And go teach defendant’s class
class at a university in front of.
A hundred university
students.
And somehow get up on a
up on a stage.
And be really smiling and jumping around and stuff.
Um, what I’ve found through that experience was that.
that um,
my
my body.
And getting into my body. On a daily basis.
Was one of the most effective.
Strategies that was moving me through my
trauma.
And that I could be in a certain state of mind all day and feel very stuck there. Like there was absolutely nothing I could do to get out of the mental, emotional, even physical
space I was in.
But then moving my body.
And getting into my
my body.
would leave that class and be in a
in a different state. Of
state of mind.
Um, and I could even feel, I teach a lot of strong cardio classes and I
and I also teach you a bed
that more flowing movement. But
But
that
those strong cardio classes. I mean, sometimes I would even
even be kind of.
Crying as. I’m teaching. Throwing things down. I am
and I am.
I was able to release.
A lot of.
of.
What felt very stuck in my body and what I came to recognize as I kind of built this
this practice
own classes. And then.
Then getting really interested in yoga and things.
Um, as well. That kind of builds on starting with the
with the cardio on the release.
And then getting into.
to Meditation.
to.
That’s like a
like a crucial
can’t be left out.
out.
It became this like incredible. Trifecta. That suddenly gave me an access as I was working through Toronto with the
with a therapist.
I worked the 12 steps for betrayal trauma. And every day in my life. I was not a journaling. I was doing all this kind of self-care.
Therapy
healing stuff.
But it was that piece of the body. And learning how through meditation to connect what I was
I was starting to understand if my watch mind.
therapy and through reading.
Books and good content.
Lots of self-help stuff. That’s out there. That can connect into the logical line.
But when I
when I started to.
Connect to those
those pieces
With the body. It was like whole file folders. That I had no idea in my logical awareness. We’re part of all this pain I was
I was experiencing.
I had access to all of this information that was stored in.
My body. That in meditation.
Things these things
would surface as a memory with surface or just unknowing.
That’s what
what this is about. That’s why this. hurts which is kind of
surface.
When I
my body. All of this
of this work.
Okay. So some good stuff there and I have to ask for clarity. So, um, I exercise on a very regular basis. Right. And I don’t feel like this amazing release. Um, and so. For all of our listeners who are also, I’m like, yeah, I go to the gym or I run or whatever it is that you do, but I don’t feel all this emotional or psychological release. How can we, how can we get, how can we get the release Nisha? It sounds like this is a sex podcast now, and I’m asking you how to have an orgasm.
How do I have a release?
Well, I think it’s a lot of it is the intention.
Behind what you’re doing. So I know for me,
for years,
exercise It was about.
Burning calories.
It was about
You know
You know the results of the
weight.
And it wasn’t about, it was totally disconnected from what
actually going inside of me is actually
actually
from my body. I was pushing my body to
achieve.
desired outcome.
I
I wasn’t listening to my body.
Oh, Oh, there it is. Push pushing for achievement. Right.
Got. The shift.
I think
think like
the big
big shift that happened for
In my
my life was to start to pay
to my inner world. Like what’s really going on inside of me.
And what is, and what my body is telling me
me about what is. going On inside of me.
So if I’m
I’m
a lot of tension or a
or a lot of
and I’m feeling it in my shoulder, I.
Becky and I
and I bawled it’s like right here. And For both of us. Yes. Um,
Aye.
I pay
pay attention to that now.
And it’s what
what is going on inside of me? And what
And what is it that I need to release?
And what I love
love about.
Like when Becky teaches.
Teaches the classes. It’s about using the breath.
And using
using movement.
to throw down.
What it is.
that you’re carrying, that’s not serving.
And then the yoga.
And the Pilates.
like the
flowing movement and the meditation is about.
bringing awareness. About what it
what it is that.
You want to cultivate and what
it is that
to create. Um, and so for me,
That has been such a shift. I mean,
I mean, even like,
um, heard of our
of our program, we
have
have walking meditations.
And
so going out into nature and walking.
walking.
Even if I’m doing
doing it.
Briskly to get my heart rate up and to feel the
moving through me
when I’m doing it.
From a
place of creating awareness.
and
and mindfulness.
it’s so different than when I’m wearing a Fitbit. and I’m trying to burn calories.
You know,
It just creates such a different thing. Even even, I feel like if you’re weight
way training,
But it’s about.
about Cultivate like feeling strength Feeling strong.
Instead of
of like
what it looks like.
you know? Oh man.
Mostly building It’s just a totally different. Jerry experience. This is hitting so home for me, I think about, you know, going to the gym you’re in front of a mirror, you got hard bodies all around you. You’re like trying to get more toned and more cut and more fit. And it’s just, it’s just to look good. It’s just that value piece. Um, so what you’re talking about is pretty different than what I do, and I can see a huge, like whole gaping hole of, oh, this needs to shift for me really powerful.
Thank you so much for that Nisha. That was really powerful. Um, I want to go back to Becky for just a second. Um, will you talk about these file folders? You mentioned file folders. And I was like, wait, wait, wait. That’s such a good analogy. Will you give us more info on that?
Yeah.
That’s kind of going back to this idea of
of trauma. Right.
That When we’re in
a state
being really upset. And it doesn’t have to be, I mean, trauma’s a strong word, right?
And so some people might be like, I know.
I have shot on what you’re talking about.
It really can be anything. Anytime that you’re off. So if we kind of go back to that idea of
of center, and I love it.
When Lisa was talking about every practice we start. And try to find our center.
Before we do anything. So this is something you could apply
at the
gym or.
No matter what you’re
what you’re
Before you start your movement to take a minute and just pause. I come into your
your body. and
and just notice what.
Narratives. Or stresses. Am I carrying
Am I carrying.
Like, is there something on my shoulder today? That is just like eating at me
me.
And what am I carrying that I don’t want to carry anymore? And then I’m going to use my
my practice.
To throw that down.
throw that, to release that, to give it. Permission to
to leave.
And it can be as simple as that. That you’re setting that
that intention before you start to move.
But
when you’re talking about trauma and some of these things, I would
I would say like also like Nisha mentioned,
these traumas are not necessarily.
A life altering event.
They can be lots of people experience.
Betrayals
of.
All sorts of all sorts. That’s so common and that is absolutely. It’s a
It’s a life changing It matters.
Um, so whether it’s a big life
life
event, Or these small moments like Nisha talked about where you’re internalizing these ideas that are kind of cutting you off in your
from your heart
making
making you feel like.
I’m not quite right. You know?
Those things are all stored in the body. They’re stored in our brains and our memories. Our
of our body.
Carry the weight
weight of those memories and those broken.
and the places where the belief systems.
went
I am.
You know, this
This fabulous preschool. I’m
Beautiful.
And I’m loved to,
oh no.
Something’s wrong with me.
And our bodies carry those threats.
And our adult life.
Can become this
this like
constant striving and grasping.
To kind of run away from that part of
part of ourselves.
That eventually.
Is gonna.
Hit the floor on some level. And when we’re in that
that space,
of
or I’m. I can tell something’s off. I.
I can tell.
there’s something eating at
at me.
That’s where you, those file folders. When you can find that open
open space,
center you clear space or movement. And now you’re cultivating a different energy. Through yoga and you come to a meditation and you’re opening yourself up really to your own body, mind,
mind and spirit.
say, show me what’s hurting right now. Show me. Where this is
this is leading back to.
And that’s when this, your body and mind and spirit.
can open these file folders and kind of.
a memory will surface a, a,
Association will come up.
That you’ll be able to recognize. This
this is where this is connected to. This is what’s hurting.
This is where
is where
trauma of one sort or
sort or another maybe.
for me.
And this is what
is what needs to be healed.
This, this brings energy or, uh, working out and exercise to a completely different level instead of like, oh, like you were saying, I have to get my steps in or I have to run two miles or I have to. You know, do this weight regime instead of that, we go into it with what part of me needs healing. And we bring that to our exercise practice.
This is Phenomenal. I love this well. Well, one of you tell us about your, your program. I’m interested in hearing about that.
Okay.
All right. Well,
Well we have
aspects for our
for our program.
We have an in-person location. That offers a morning daily practice and it’s 90 minutes of.
of
what we’ve been talking
talking about here with you today.
That kind of centered. Present check-in.
strong, challenging cardio movement.
Yoga Pilates. And then a 10 to 15 minute guided
guided meditation every day at the end.
So that you’re really coming every day.
day.
and recentering
space.
And that center is.
is.
a higher power. Or your own sense of self.
Your presence. That kind of higher, the higher place that lives
lives within you. That sense of
That every
every human being. carries So that was.
what we want.
Yeah, that’s local to Utah. What can people outside of Utah? Um,
Outside. Yeah.
Outside of Utah We’re so excited
to be launching our first.
Online version in January.
So that
would be cart.
be cart.
open
January 4th. Cart closed
14th and it is, uh, Daily practice. Kind of weekly. Community meetings.
There’s 18 weeks.
A different course.
principles that move you through.
concepts of healing and transformation, where you peel back the subconscious mind. Do you understand what your center is, how to find your center? Um,
Um
kind of based in
in 12 steps.
But it’s also, it’s like a marriage between 12 step.
And mindfulness really. So you’re learning these like logical principles. And you’re meeting with the community once a week
in a group setting.
Where you’re talking about how it’s going through your, where
you’re
accountable for the way
the way you’re implementing your practice.
And then through the week you have four elements of daily
daily practice.
too That are 60 minutes.
Daily practice videos.
With a full
movement, yoga movement and meditation.
and then two
then two walking meditations.
A bunch of journaling. So it’s
like a full it’s like a
like a lifestyle.
It’s a full program that really helps you implement a
a life, a
different way of living a different way of being
your body. And that’s the poor. You on a
on a daily basis.
Let me ask you this. Um, if, if we don’t have 60 to 90 minutes every day, Uh, to do a program, how would you recommend that people could like just, um, start off really slowly on that instead of like full blown from nothing to 90 minutes a day, what could we do from home possibly to just get started?
Yeah.
Well, we have a more than mindfulness. Weekly podcast. That are weekly YouTube channel. Where we’re putting out
out meditations
but the course really it’s two daily
daily
a week.
So that’s 60 minutes, twice
twice a
And then a walking meditation for the other
the other two days. Which are
to 20
to 20 minutes. ’cause really.
I have to say. You really
really have to decide.
That you’re worth the time.
There really isn’t. Uh, way around.
That if you really want to shift your relationship with your body.
And be able to counteract the messaging. Like we talked about on both of our podcasts. That’s so loud. That’s.
That’s
without you even
you even
it.
is.
pushing you to shift your center.
And two things that will
that will never fill you.
That you have to, you have to learn and take the time to say. I’m committing this time.
To myself, because I can’t read about it.
And I think I’m going to internalize that. It really is a
is a daily practice. Bodywork has to be done.
With the button.
Yes you can sit in the chair. Yeah.
That’s the magic. That’s the magic ticket. Incorporating the bodywork.
into it. And then as a, as a, as a way to ease into it or to be gentle with ourselves, I think sometimes we want to say, okay, I’m now going to take this on. And I’m going to work out every single day, every single day for 90 minutes, when we go from zero to, you know, 90 miles an hour overnight. And so possibly I love your idea of the walking meditation.
Um, for those of you who want to ease into things, you could start with a 20 minute walking meditation. I’ve started walking in the evenings at, and my goal. Uh, and if you listen to my first two podcasts, we don’t usually work with goals, right? We want to work with habits. My goal is okay. I want to become someone who walks three or four times a week in the evenings. And so you can either start with 20 minutes, which I love, or you can do it once a week walking for an hour or something like that.
So that might be someplace that you could start really gently to, to go into and not have to. You know, um, uh, from zero to, to 90 overnight. Um, I love programs like yours, that support people in, uh, You know, it’s such a big life change to go from either not exercising or exercising for the wrong reasons right here.
Uh, to kind of changing the core of the center, you are. Uh, of who you are and what you’re trying to do. So I love that you’re guiding people through that. Um, as I said, we have a discount code to that course or daily practice. We’re going to pop that in the show notes. If you’re listening on a podcast, go to habits for humans.com and you’ll see that discount code, um, and all of the links to the Lifehouse, uh, body and soul course from Becky and Nisha.
Thank you so much for sharing that. And they have that discount code for you. As we wrap things up, I want to remind you that the goal of this podcast is to program your life, your brain, your body, your emotions, to start instilling system. Systems and habits into your daily life. It’s not about what, you know, it’s about what you do. And just like what, uh, Becky and Nisha were saying. It’s about also why you do it. It’s not just going through the motions and looking good on the outside. It’s being good to yourself and, and living a more whole life.
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And I just want to think again, Becky and Nisha for being here with us. Thanks for joining us on habits for humans and thanks to our listeners, uh, the podcast, this. I’m screwed everything up. Hold on. Once again.
Again, Thanks for joining us, Nisha and Becky. And thanks to our listeners. This is habits for humans. The podcast that teaches you how to program your life to maximize your potential reminder, that you can get your free week of meal planning from card salad. Just go to habits for humans.com. Look for Becky and Nisha’s podcast. If you’re not there already and sign up to get the seven day eat real food challenge.
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